Friday, May 14, 2010

Paul and Fletcher disagree on Frank Wren

Jeff Schultz wrote a blog about Frank Wren saying that the Mark Teixeira trade didn't exactly set the team back. Wren made some comments about how how the Braves didn't really need the six prospects the team gave up. Paul Mac disagrees with Wren, while I actually agree with Wren after pondering over it a bit more. Here was our exchange....

Paul: I want to like the guy. I really do, but he is one arrogant SOB for not having accomplished much in his tenure.

The Teixeria trade “didn’t affect the team at all”? Really? So those 5 players couldn’t have been traded to fix some of the other holes on the team?

These guys never admit fault ever and it drives me freaking crazy. Just admit that at the time they thought they were a player away and it turns out they weren’t so the subsequent years have been spent trying to rebuild. Then people can see there is a pattern and believe you know what you are talking about a little bit. Failing to admit organizational faults is ridiculous in this case, if they didn’t make some mistakes why haven’t they really competed the last 5 years?

Chemistry is all fine and good. It makes it more fun to endure 9 game losing streaks and 25 1 run losses. It’s a heck of a lot more fun to have a guy out in left hitting 44 dongs rather than going through a rotation of 4th and 5th OF’s.


SBF's Response: Wow. you OK there Paul?

can you blame frank wren? was he going to throw his boss under the bus? JS made that trade. Wren couldn't second guess it now. You are asking for too much.

Yes, hindsight is 20/20 but Salty has never become what we thought he'd be. He'd have had to move to first if he stayed in the ATL. Andrus would have allowed Yunel to be traded to San Diego for Peavy, but it probably would have also required Hanson or Feliz. if hanson is traded then we get Peavy (who still isn't healthy and Feliz is in Hanson's spot....maybe)
I kind of agree with Wren on this one now that I look at the trade. Andrus is the only one I'd rather have and he isn't the hitter escobar is. Fielder, yes, but Yunel's arm appears stronger.

Beau Jones and Matt Harrison, hello, my name is Jo-Jo Reyes and/or Charlie Morton.

They were hoping that tex would resign and he didn't and thus required a trade. beat wren up on not unloading tex sooner for a bigger prize from the angels.

Paul's final word: There are ways to say it. I’m fine. You don’t have to say that trade didn’t effect us on the field at all. You say… at the time, we thought we were one player away from a run at the world series so it was worth a try to give up the bulk of our MLB ready talent. Not…. That didn’t effect us at all. My statement covers the former boss and explains why you were willing to give up so many prospects for a rental.

Forget Jake Peavey. They are working on how many years now without a real starting left fielder? Since Andruw Jones left… no really worthy center fielder at the plate. No real solution at leadoff. No replacement at 3rd. No answer at 1st other than maybe Freeman. 4 of 8 field positions that are essentially vacant long term. Andrus could play 3rd or Short. I’m not beating Wren up for the moves. I’m beating Wren up for the arrogant way he communicates. He would do himself a service by taking some PR classes. They lost a huge part of their lineup in Tex. That trade and his subsequent rental affected this club quite a bit whether those players were going to start at all.

The entire organization from Mcguirk on down other than JS does an incredibly poor job in the PR department because they don’t explain themselves and they treat the listener as if they are stupid.

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